i have been riding for about 6 months now benn trying to do all my tricks but my frame is just too heavey to get as high as i need to go to do the tricks i want to do. ive been savin up for that sin 20" and i have about $200 now just by doing some odd jobs for people around my block. ive been following the ebay items because i know they go for only about $150 on ebay and im desperate to get one of those frames. any kind of discount or anything will be great!!!